I have ferro rods and I have lighters, I consider these to be consumables-to be used until such a time as they are all gone( like a lot of stuff will be post SHTF), I also have several traditional steels and some flint, I want to gather more flint-not just for spark striking but for flint napping, but I don't live in a flint area and its a 100 mile round trip to an area that is, so a special trip needs to be organised, preferably after heavy rain as this washes it out of the ground and all one has to do is simply bend down and pick it up.